Peter Oborne gives a chilling account of the state of things under Bozo. The complicit media scathingly criticised also. (Oborne is no leftie whinger, btw).
One reason people turned against Bozo was surely Peter Stefanovic, a lawyer/campaigner, whose video listing Johnson's lies got over 40 million views. He seems to have filled the gap left by a Labour opposition largely ineffectual at media.
He seems pretty good at presenting facts in an appealing way on social media and youtube. Here's a good example of a 1 minute video that forensically takes apart the farce that was Boris Johnson's government:
..well, at least shortly, anyway
Given his history, it's rather apt that he's suffering death by a thousand cu*ts.
The politicians I've met at grass roots level have been mostly decent, even if I haven't shared their views.
Anyway, I hope that if Johnson goes the situation isn't considered 'fixed'. Those who continued to support him despite each instance of sharp practice and wrongdoing have proven themselves completely untrustworthy and unfit for public office.
For sure, there are no saints in politics. But I doubt they're all liars and twisters. 10% are probably relatively decent - and they need us, because otherwise they don't get heard.
As Noam Chomsky says, choosing the lesser evil is a good thing. You get less evil.
Also, I think it's a reactionary slippery slope to see them all as bad. It's a notion that's been very heavily promoted in internet memes for several years - targeting dissenting youth. The aim, apparently, is to make young idealistic people so cynical from the outset, that they never bother trying to change anything politically. It undermines the whole idea of democracy by stealth.
They effectively become conservatives at 18 rather than 60 - while they think they're being dissidents by rejecting everything in politics equally. They probably have little historic knowledge of the political struggles that gradually, slowly, incrementally, and with great resistance from conservative establishments, increased their rights and freedoms over the decades. All of which can be reversed in a year or two by the new breed of "maverick" far-right politicians who have mastered populist (often, ironically, anti-establishment) rhetoric - and are constantly boosted online by the algorithms and the gullible.
I'm not going to jump into a rabbit hole of political views tit for tatting, I've got better things to do with my time...No disrespect to this thread, which I do read.
I told myself some time ago not to 'get involved' in any online political talk, so I should know better. What I do in the real world on that front is a different matter, and a private one.
But just to clarify, I do have a reasonable grasp of the current political landscape and it's implications, and the picture you paint with the likes of Farage and his agenda are a million miles away from my beliefs.
Even though we (me and my family) lead a reasonably comfortable life, I come from a hard working, working-class background, good, decent, caring people, and I always try to view things from a grass-roots level and how any political decisions/actions, or non-actions, will ultimately affect ordinary people.
There are major flaws and problems with all the main political parties, the NHS is a shambles, the whole police force is basically not fit for purpose and both seem more concerned with hiding/covering up mistakes and any unlawful/criminal actions they commit and retaining the current status of little to no accountability...and the problem with both the NHS and the police is not all about lack of funding and resources, far from it.
I'll leave it there, seeing as I said I shouldn't get involved, it looks like I said too much already..😂
However, I will say one more thing, watch this:
BTW, that matte card sleeve effect was achieved, in the main, with a curves adjustment, using the blacks (shadows) slider (bottom left) and just pushing up the y-axis, hard to the left (not very far) and then applying a levels adjustment on top to compensate, as it will be slightly washed out.
No prob, Tourist, I value your views.
I avoid political talk on social media flooded with trolls & bots. But among people I respect (eg here!) I enjoy the cut & thrust of difference in opinion. I even don't mind being called a "woke leftie whinger"! (Not by you). 😄😍
The fact is they are all self-serving twisters and liars. no matter who is in power.
Why do we act surprised?...at anything they do!?...or don't do
The only astonishing thing about it is this.
Why are the Tories and their supporters only now deciding to stand on principle?
The fact that they have been happy to go along with it for as long as Johnson was popular in the polls is damning and shameful.
Blimey, Chancellor Rishi Sunak and Sajid Javid have both resigned? I thought they were Bozo "loyalists" - to the extent that any of these creeps are loyal to anything.
It just gets worse and worse. Or, rather, better and better. 😁
Edit: Btw, I've just seen that in Sajid Javid's resignation letter, he writes:
"The UK has led the world in learning to live with Covid." HAHAHAHA!! That's one of the funniest things I've heard in a while. You can't write satire that good. What a bunch of clowns.
Oh dear. Things aren't going terribly well are they?
More lies from the lying liar, Boris Johnson, who has been found lying again. Does he ever do anything else but lie?
After denials by Johnson about having any knowledge of a Foreign Office minister's groping of men (the person in question, Chris Pincher, is now suspended), it was revealed by a high-ranking civil servant that he had been briefed about it in person. Why not just tell the truth at the start?
Update: Johnson now claims he forgot about it. (I mean, why would you remember a complaint about a minister groping men! Jeez).
@Orphan of Babylon You spelt it out clearly enough the first time, Orphan. What you didn't do is defend it against an obvious criticism. Simple ideas that don't stand up to criticism are destined for the dustbin. And your idea (which isn't new) was, I think, long ago dumped on the rubbish tip of history, along with other discredited simple-minded Malthusian notions that ignore important factors, such as the economies of ephemeralization.
The rapid development of the Covid vaccines is a case in point. As is my own experience of open-heart surgery at Liverpool heart hospital, on the NHS, by a world-class Egyptian surgeon, a specialist Indian anaesthetist, and a team of professionals, less than 50% of whom were British. They all could have chosen to work for big £££s in private practices, but for idealistic reasons chose to work for the NHS in Liverpool.
I've talked to a lot of people at the NHS. They were nearly all of the opinion that this Conservative government - and its catastrophic policies - is the biggest existential threat to the NHS that we've faced since 1948.
@Orphan of Babylon Blimey, Orphan, I only used one big word - "ephemeralization" (an idea coined by Bucky Fuller). The rest is straightforward English, for anyone beyond Ladybird books. 😄
BozzoPooh (& the rest of the Muppets) strongly believe that Ethics
is somewhere to the north east of London ...
Peter Oborne (no "leftie whinger") has a set up a website with a searchable database of the lies and falsehoods of Boris Johnson and his lying government.
Boris is well known for lying about NHS funding, of course. His government is ideologically against the "socialist" idea of universal healthcare, but they need to pretend they really support the NHS, otherwise they lose votes.
Hence his lie about building 40 new hospitals. The verdict from Oborne's site:
"It was a cynical lie he and his fellow ministers have repeated many times over."
Boris Johnson’s new top strategist repeatedly branded the NHS as “sh*te”. Straight out of the privatisation-by-stealth playbook: defund over a period of years, until it starts to decline, then attack it as second-rate (or "sh*te") and blame that on immigrants, or on people who "don't pay their share" (I mean, the NHS was created to provide universal healthcare for those in need, that's the whole ethos). Sorry to be blunt, but the people attacking it are idiots or arseholes.
Meanwhile, Johnson's Brexitshambles is doing real, lasting damage to the UK economy, as the FT (no "leftie whinger" newspaper) reports. That will hurt the NHS too - far more than those usually blamed by the frothing RW tabloids: poor people, unemployed or immigrants.
@Orphan of Babylon There is a difference between entering the country by an irregular route (eg small boat across the Channel) and entering the country illegally. Seeking asylum is NOT illegal, despite what the government and Daily Mail want you to believe. 7 out of 10 initial asylum applications were granted last year - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/24/deportations-from-uk-at-record-low-as-asylum-applications-soar.
If you really are in this country illegally and undetected, then you're going to keep a low profile and avoid contact with the authorities, including the NHS, aren't you? 😉
@Orphan of Babylon I know that political discussions are a turn-off for most people here - and we could discuss why that is a problem 😁 - so I don't intend to prolong this one. But I'll tell you how I arrived at my position on boat people.
A few years ago I had a holiday on Kos, the Greek island that is just a short sea crossing from Turkey. It was, and still is, a popular destination for boat people, since it means that they are in the EU.
Anyway, although the authorities had set up a camp in a stadium outside Kos town, there were also many of them camping in Kos town itself. Looking at them, it struck me that the great majority of them were young and fit. They had had the initiative and drive to get out of their own countries, and they had - or had had - a substantial amount of money, to pay the people smugglers. Only half facetiously, I observed that most of them had better phones than I did.
So I came to the view that these were just the sort of people that any country should welcome. I reckoned that after a short period of assimilation they would become productive members of society, and certainly not a burden on the health service. I was ashamed, and still am, of the government's attitude to and treatment of these people.
Finally, I note the very poor performance of the far-right parties (Britain 1st, UKIP, Reform, etc) in Wakefield, and conclude that immigration - illegal or legal - is not seen as much of a problem there.
@Perfect Monster It's unfortunate (to put it mildly) that the simplistic tropes (what Orphan calls "common sense") get a lot of traction, even though they're expressed in vague, ill-defined, unquantified terms (as shown above), and the more detailed, factual, precise corrections tend to turn people off, because they're not emotionally appealing in the same way as "Blame it on the foreigners, I mean the illegal immigrants... no, sorry, I mean the boat people, you know, whatever, it's common sense and I don't need to defend it"). 😁
So, basically, both of Boris Johnson’s ethics advisors and his anti-corruption Tsar have resigned in disgust at Boris's unethical and corrupt behaviour. All within a short period of time.
Imagine if it were a Labour or Lib Dem PM. They'd have been forced out under the weight of "public opinion" (led by the frothing RW tabloids).
The face says it all...This face says 'you'd better not fuck with me'
Holy crap -- Johnson had an 'ethics advisor' -- who would have guessed?
Boris Johnson's ethics adviser Lord Geidt quits - BBC News
Yes, he's had a couple..Right?..I think.
All he does/did is over-rule/ignore any 'ethics advice' he doesn't like. The poison dwarf Priti Patel's 'alleged' deep-rooted bullying of staff an example.
Just checked: The first of Johnson’s ethics advisers to quit was Sir Alex Allan, who resigned in 2020 after the Prime Minister refused to accept his finding that Home Secretary Priti Patel had bullied civil servants.
Johnson's supporters are well aware of what he is.
They support him because he's the embodiment of that cosy, rose-tinted yesteryear when everything was so much better and Britain was great.
Without that opium of the masses, nostalgia, the Tories would crash big time; that's why he won the no-confidence vote.
The truth is, Boris Johnson could say and do anything, provided he puts the little symbol back on pint glasses, re-introduces lbs and oz, and generally gives the appearance of being on the side of the politically incorrect.
What it comes down to is trying to make an argument based on his dishonesty or duplicity or incompetence is futile. It makes no difference.
He's forever going on about "unleashing Britain's potential". Meanwhile, the reality... (UK is also set for the highest inflation of G7 nations, according to the FT).
Lowest growth, highest inflation, biggest liar.
@Orphan of Babylon Odd that you'd choose Russia as a comparison - rather than all the western liberal democracies that are evidently doing better economically than Britain. As for where I'd rather live, that's a somewhat different issue, with all kinds of factors. I love North Wales, where I reside - the people here, the landscape, the sea, the mountains, etc. And to the extent that Wales has any political control (independent of Westminster) I find it preferable to England in certain respects. Mark Drakeford (First Minister of Wales) seems a decent chap, with infinitely more honesty and integrity than Boris Johnson. His policy on Covid, for example was far more sensible and humane than Boris's.
And careful with your stereotyping of "whingeing lefties", or you might come across as a reactionary Tory apologist for the World's Biggest Liar Politician! 😁😉
They spend so much time on internal problems (including criminal inquiries) and damage control, etc, they can't have much time left for things like keeping the NHS from sinking. Oh, sorry, I forgot - they're not actually interested in keeping the NHS afloat.